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i think this is actually a MUCH better idea and would appear MUCH better on a t-shirt than the presentation image betrays.
yes, i’m implying it doesn’t look all that appealing in the image. the main reason is that colors of such high saturation (or intensity) can only be produced with additive light, like that emitted by a computer monitor, as opposed to reflective light, like that emitted from a t-shirt or other print medium. this makes the t-shirt appear literally unrealistic in the image.
in case you’re skeptical, photoshop’s gamut warning evidences that this is the case. indeed, if you turn the saturation down on the whole image until the gamut warning is satisfied, while you do lose more color than is probably necessary, the t-shirt also does begin to look much more realistic.
in order to make the image appear realistic without losing so much color, you’d need to set your proof settings to “working CMYK” mode, and then change each color individually to maximum intensity: in CMYK mode, you’re effectively barred from choosing colors only producible with additive light, so you’re free to intensify away!
another problem with the presentation image is that eye wants to see the design folded and creased with the t-shirt. most designs submitted here have attributes that don’t make this a big issue. the hard horizontal stripes on your design, however, make it obvious that the it is merely overlaid rather than actually on the shirt, thus making it appear unrealistic. the way to fix this is to use a gradient map of the t-shirt alone (plain/no design) as a template for a displacement distortion. i don’t remember how to do this, but a quick google search for “gradient map displace distort” should lead you in the right direction.
finally, the dark color of the image background in tandem with the black stripes in the design makes the eye rely too heavily on the gestalt of the t-shirt shape produced by the colored stripes. simple solution: use a lighter background.
please note that none of this is a criticism of your design. rather, its a defense of your design against those whom may not realize that it’s the presentation of your design rather than its actual viability as a t-shirt design that’s bothering their eyes.
the only criticism i might have of your design is that it might not look so good if it doesn’t wrap around the whole t-shirt. but, then again, as long as the t-shirt color is black, it might work just fine.
hope this has helped! :]
+1
infophiliac said: i think this is actually a MUCH better idea and would appear MUCH better on a t-shirt than the presentation image betrays.
yes, i’m implying it doesn’t look all that appealing in the image. the main reason is that colors of such high saturation (or intensity) can only be produced with additive light, like that emitted by a computer monitor, as opposed to reflective light, like that emitted from a t-shirt or other print medium. this makes the t-shirt appear literally unrealistic in the image.
in case you’re skeptical, photoshop’s gamut warning evidences that this is the case. indeed, if you turn the saturation down on the whole image until the gamut warning is satisfied, while you do lose more color than is probably necessary, the t-shirt also does begin to look much more realistic.
in order to make the image appear realistic without losing so much color, you’d need to set your proof settings to “working CMYK” mode, and then change each color individually to maximum intensity: in CMYK mode, you’re effectively barred from choosing colors only producible with additive light, so you’re free to intensify away!
another problem with the presentation image is that eye wants to see the design folded and creased with the t-shirt. most designs submitted here have attributes that don’t make this a big issue. the hard horizontal stripes on your design, however, make it obvious that the it is merely overlaid rather than actually on the shirt, thus making it appear unrealistic. the way to fix this is to use a gradient map of the t-shirt alone (plain/no design) as a template for a displacement distortion. i don’t remember how to do this, but a quick google search for “gradient map displace distort” should lead you in the right direction.
finally, the dark color of the image background in tandem with the black stripes in the design makes the eye rely too heavily on the gestalt of the t-shirt shape produced by the colored stripes. simple solution: use a lighter background.
please note that none of this is a criticism of your design. rather, its a defense of your design against those whom may not realize that it’s the presentation of your design rather than its actual viability as a t-shirt design that’s bothering their eyes.
the only criticism i might have of your design is that it might not look so good if it doesn’t wrap around the whole t-shirt. but, then again, as long as the t-shirt color is black, it might work just fine.
hope this has helped! :]
+1
wow. now thats what i call a critique! if this shirt gets printed, im sending you one myself :)
i understand what you are saying in regards to how this is presented (both the colour spaces RGB vs CMYK) and how it is on the shirt. personally, i love it so much more in the RGB colour space, its so damn exciting to me cause of its brightness/pain on the eye feeling. i know thats not really sell able, but thats how i want it. of course, its not printable like this either – its an absolute must for it to be converted to CMYK, none of these colours are in gamut, though the red is the closest. i actually have the pantone colours picked out for this already, theyre pretty much as close to as possible to the original super bright and exciting design shown above. i am wondering though, if a slight discharge chemical were added to the inks, would they have a brighter appearance on the shirt? if this were to be considered for printing by DBH, thats certainly a question id be asking them.
as for how it is placed on the shirt (or mocked up, rather) – for all designs i make that go on dark coloured shirts (usually black), i set the blend mode to screen, it gives the most accurate IMO look. then I put a white version of the same blank t shirt on top of that, and set it to multiply so only the shadows show, which gives the most realistic look possible without taking away from the integrity of the design. on the lightest parts of the design, you can see the shadows from the shirt wrinkles coming through. especially on the white space on the left side of the shirt.. if you cant see the t shirt shadows on there, it could be because your screen isnt calibrated well. the horizontal stripes definitely flatten out the design on the shirt more so than realistic, which is annoying, but as far as i know there is no way to get past that. ill try your way though, perhaps ive been wrong about that.
also, i was planning on having this as just a front screen print, though a back print would be pretty cool if it were a mirror image!
thank you for the critique and the vote!
this shirt is so sick! i want it!
if it doesnt get printed, then i dont know about this site anymore/// +1
b_ryce said: this shirt is so sick! i want it!
if it doesnt get printed, then i dont know about this site anymore/// +1
second. :X
infophiliac said: i think this is actually a MUCH better idea and would appear MUCH better on a t-shirt than the presentation image betrays.
yes, i’m implying it doesn’t look all that appealing in the image. the main reason is that colors of such high saturation (or intensity) can only be produced with additive light, like that emitted by a computer monitor, as opposed to reflective light, like that emitted from a t-shirt or other print medium. this makes the t-shirt appear literally unrealistic in the image.
in case you’re skeptical, photoshop’s gamut warning evidences that this is the case. indeed, if you turn the saturation down on the whole image until the gamut warning is satisfied, while you do lose more color than is probably necessary, the t-shirt also does begin to look much more realistic.
in order to make the image appear realistic without losing so much color, you’d need to set your proof settings to “working CMYK” mode, and then change each color individually to maximum intensity: in CMYK mode, you’re effectively barred from choosing colors only producible with additive light, so you’re free to intensify away!
another problem with the presentation image is that eye wants to see the design folded and creased with the t-shirt. most designs submitted here have attributes that don’t make this a big issue. the hard horizontal stripes on your design, however, make it obvious that the it is merely overlaid rather than actually on the shirt, thus making it appear unrealistic. the way to fix this is to use a gradient map of the t-shirt alone (plain/no design) as a template for a displacement distortion. i don’t remember how to do this, but a quick google search for “gradient map displace distort” should lead you in the right direction.
finally, the dark color of the image background in tandem with the black stripes in the design makes the eye rely too heavily on the gestalt of the t-shirt shape produced by the colored stripes. simple solution: use a lighter background.
please note that none of this is a criticism of your design. rather, its a defense of your design against those whom may not realize that it’s the presentation of your design rather than its actual viability as a t-shirt design that’s bothering their eyes.
the only criticism i might have of your design is that it might not look so good if it doesn’t wrap around the whole t-shirt. but, then again, as long as the t-shirt color is black, it might work just fine.
hope this has helped! :]
+1
I would disagree, there are some spot colors that can produce close to those, I’ve seen it since I work at a printing shop for 6 years now. Though I agree it wont be exact you can get pretty darn close with “neon” spot color process. rest would be CMYK, so hes looking at something like 5-6 colors.
I would be careful with CMYK proofs too, unless your screen is calibrated it wont do much good, not to mention your only taking in account ONLY CMYK gamut at that point, which screen printing can go outside of. http://www.dayglo.com/ if you don’t believe me :)
alright, anywayyyyy great design! +1 :)
asher2789 said:infophiliac said: i think this is actually a MUCH better idea and would appear MUCH better on a t-shirt than the presentation image betrays.
yes, i’m implying it doesn’t look all that appealing in the image. the main reason is that colors of such high saturation (or intensity) can only be produced with additive light, like that emitted by a computer monitor, as opposed to reflective light, like that emitted from a t-shirt or other print medium. this makes the t-shirt appear literally unrealistic in the image.
in case you’re skeptical, photoshop’s gamut warning evidences that this is the case. indeed, if you turn the saturation down on the whole image until the gamut warning is satisfied, while you do lose more color than is probably necessary, the t-shirt also does begin to look much more realistic.
in order to make the image appear realistic without losing so much color, you’d need to set your proof settings to “working CMYK” mode, and then change each color individually to maximum intensity: in CMYK mode, you’re effectively barred from choosing colors only producible with additive light, so you’re free to intensify away!
another problem with the presentation image is that eye wants to see the design folded and creased with the t-shirt. most designs submitted here have attributes that don’t make this a big issue. the hard horizontal stripes on your design, however, make it obvious that the it is merely overlaid rather than actually on the shirt, thus making it appear unrealistic. the way to fix this is to use a gradient map of the t-shirt alone (plain/no design) as a template for a displacement distortion. i don’t remember how to do this, but a quick google search for “gradient map displace distort” should lead you in the right direction.
finally, the dark color of the image background in tandem with the black stripes in the design makes the eye rely too heavily on the gestalt of the t-shirt shape produced by the colored stripes. simple solution: use a lighter background.
please note that none of this is a criticism of your design. rather, its a defense of your design against those whom may not realize that it’s the presentation of your design rather than its actual viability as a t-shirt design that’s bothering their eyes.
the only criticism i might have of your design is that it might not look so good if it doesn’t wrap around the whole t-shirt. but, then again, as long as the t-shirt color is black, it might work just fine.
hope this has helped! :]
+1wow. now thats what i call a critique! if this shirt gets printed, im sending you one myself :)
i understand what you are saying in regards to how this is presented (both the colour spaces RGB vs CMYK) and how it is on the shirt. personally, i love it so much more in the RGB colour space, its so damn exciting to me cause of its brightness/pain on the eye feeling. i know thats not really sell able, but thats how i want it. of course, its not printable like this either – its an absolute must for it to be converted to CMYK, none of these colours are in gamut, though the red is the closest. i actually have the pantone colours picked out for this already, theyre pretty much as close to as possible to the original super bright and exciting design shown above. i am wondering though, if a slight discharge chemical were added to the inks, would they have a brighter appearance on the shirt? if this were to be considered for printing by DBH, thats certainly a question id be asking them.
as for how it is placed on the shirt (or mocked up, rather) – for all designs i make that go on dark coloured shirts (usually black), i set the blend mode to screen, it gives the most accurate IMO look. then I put a white version of the same blank t shirt on top of that, and set it to multiply so only the shadows show, which gives the most realistic look possible without taking away from the integrity of the design. on the lightest parts of the design, you can see the shadows from the shirt wrinkles coming through. especially on the white space on the left side of the shirt.. if you cant see the t shirt shadows on there, it could be because your screen isnt calibrated well. the horizontal stripes definitely flatten out the design on the shirt more so than realistic, which is annoying, but as far as i know there is no way to get past that. ill try your way though, perhaps ive been wrong about that.
also, i was planning on having this as just a front screen print, though a back print would be pretty cool if it were a mirror image!
thank you for the critique and the vote!
what they would probably do is add an under base on it, you could ask for a thickass one and it would make the colors pop a ton esp the yellow, because if you printed this on black it would be a mess. I have a feeling they already know these tricks though? At least I would assume. Discharge wouldn’t do it as much good since it would just grey the underside instead of white it, it gives it almost like a brownish color few stops above middle grey (depending on intensity of discharge)
look into these guys http://www.dayglo.com/ (theres one other I cant think of in my sleep derived brain) pantone isn’t the only guys who make colors :) though I shouldn’t diss them since most my family works for the company that just bought pantone! doh I mean they are great! their colors pop…//insert advertisement.
buuyyyyy pannnntttooonnnee….
8)
hilukasz said:asher2789 said:infophiliac said: i think this is actually a MUCH better idea and would appear MUCH better on a t-shirt than the presentation image betrays.
yes, i’m implying it doesn’t look all that appealing in the image. the main reason is that colors of such high saturation (or intensity) can only be produced with additive light, like that emitted by a computer monitor, as opposed to reflective light, like that emitted from a t-shirt or other print medium. this makes the t-shirt appear literally unrealistic in the image.
in case you’re skeptical, photoshop’s gamut warning evidences that this is the case. indeed, if you turn the saturation down on the whole image until the gamut warning is satisfied, while you do lose more color than is probably necessary, the t-shirt also does begin to look much more realistic.
in order to make the image appear realistic without losing so much color, you’d need to set your proof settings to “working CMYK” mode, and then change each color individually to maximum intensity: in CMYK mode, you’re effectively barred from choosing colors only producible with additive light, so you’re free to intensify away!
another problem with the presentation image is that eye wants to see the design folded and creased with the t-shirt. most designs submitted here have attributes that don’t make this a big issue. the hard horizontal stripes on your design, however, make it obvious that the it is merely overlaid rather than actually on the shirt, thus making it appear unrealistic. the way to fix this is to use a gradient map of the t-shirt alone (plain/no design) as a template for a displacement distortion. i don’t remember how to do this, but a quick google search for “gradient map displace distort” should lead you in the right direction.
finally, the dark color of the image background in tandem with the black stripes in the design makes the eye rely too heavily on the gestalt of the t-shirt shape produced by the colored stripes. simple solution: use a lighter background.
please note that none of this is a criticism of your design. rather, its a defense of your design against those whom may not realize that it’s the presentation of your design rather than its actual viability as a t-shirt design that’s bothering their eyes.
the only criticism i might have of your design is that it might not look so good if it doesn’t wrap around the whole t-shirt. but, then again, as long as the t-shirt color is black, it might work just fine.
hope this has helped! :]
+1wow. now thats what i call a critique! if this shirt gets printed, im sending you one myself :)
i understand what you are saying in regards to how this is presented (both the colour spaces RGB vs CMYK) and how it is on the shirt. personally, i love it so much more in the RGB colour space, its so damn exciting to me cause of its brightness/pain on the eye feeling. i know thats not really sell able, but thats how i want it. of course, its not printable like this either – its an absolute must for it to be converted to CMYK, none of these colours are in gamut, though the red is the closest. i actually have the pantone colours picked out for this already, theyre pretty much as close to as possible to the original super bright and exciting design shown above. i am wondering though, if a slight discharge chemical were added to the inks, would they have a brighter appearance on the shirt? if this were to be considered for printing by DBH, thats certainly a question id be asking them.
as for how it is placed on the shirt (or mocked up, rather) – for all designs i make that go on dark coloured shirts (usually black), i set the blend mode to screen, it gives the most accurate IMO look. then I put a white version of the same blank t shirt on top of that, and set it to multiply so only the shadows show, which gives the most realistic look possible without taking away from the integrity of the design. on the lightest parts of the design, you can see the shadows from the shirt wrinkles coming through. especially on the white space on the left side of the shirt.. if you cant see the t shirt shadows on there, it could be because your screen isnt calibrated well. the horizontal stripes definitely flatten out the design on the shirt more so than realistic, which is annoying, but as far as i know there is no way to get past that. ill try your way though, perhaps ive been wrong about that.
also, i was planning on having this as just a front screen print, though a back print would be pretty cool if it were a mirror image!
thank you for the critique and the vote!
what they would probably do is add an under base on it, you could ask for a thickass one and it would make the colors pop a ton esp the yellow, because if you printed this on black it would be a mess. I have a feeling they already know these tricks though? At least I would assume. Discharge wouldn’t do it as much good since it would just grey the underside instead of white it, it gives it almost like a brownish color few stops above middle grey (depending on intensity of discharge)
look into these guys http://www.dayglo.com/ (theres one other I cant think of in my sleep derived brain) pantone isn’t the only guys who make colors :) though I shouldn’t diss them since most my family works for the company that just bought pantone! doh I mean they are great! their colors pop…//insert advertisement.
buuyyyyy pannnntttooonnnee….
8)
Thank you, I will definitely pass that info onto DBH if this gets printed.
I knew they treated black shirts before printing, I just didn’t know how. And Pantone is the leader in inks in the printing world, but of course their are others… I think I saw day glo inks at the local art supply store, ill have to check that out in case DBH doesn’t print this then I will.
WOW…this is insanely awesome. i love the interlacing of colored lines!!!!!!!
I don’t have a lot of time for a big comment, but I would buy it if printed. +1 ;)
Haha Well, I’m glad that my comment spurred some useful advice from people whom actually know something about print! ;]
My concern was just that the design might lose votes undeservedly!
infophiliac said: Haha Well, I’m glad that my comment spurred some useful advice from people whom actually know something about print! ;]
My concern was just that the design might lose votes undeservedly!
perhaps ill submit a better image..
asher2789 said:infophiliac said: Haha Well, I’m glad that my comment spurred some useful advice from people whom actually know something about print! ;]
My concern was just that the design might lose votes undeservedly!perhaps ill submit a better image..
i tried the whole displacement map thing, made it look worse on the shirt than it does now. the folds in the shirt versus the ‘folds’ in the design completely didnt match up.. i even fiddled with the settings a bit, no luck. with a stripped shirt its going to be hard to make it look realistic and therefore more appealing – i think the design should speaks for itself, and i want the inks to be as bright as inks can be, which isnt as bright as this but even the proof colours wouldnt really be an accurate representation of what it would look like if printed with the right inks. i kinda want an updated 80s feel in terms of almost neon excitement! lol. thank you for all your help though, its very generous.
asher2789 said:
i tried the whole displacement map thing, made it look worse on the shirt than it does now. the folds in the shirt versus the ‘folds’ in the design completely didnt match up.. i even fiddled with the settings a bit, no luck. with a stripped shirt its going to be hard to make it look realistic and therefore more appealing – i think the design should speaks for itself, and i want the inks to be as bright as inks can be, which isnt as bright as this but even the proof colours wouldnt really be an accurate representation of what it would look like if printed with the right inks. i kinda want an updated 80s feel in terms of almost neon excitement! lol. thank you for all your help though, its very generous.
that’s a shame about the displacement map—i was convinced that that was the secret key to the most realistic design overlays ever! haha
i agree that the design SHOULD speak for itself; my worry is that it would not—hence my decision to speak for it myself! haha it’s garnered a relatively good number of votes thus far, however, so perhaps my worries were unfounded!
also, i’m all about the neo-80s neon excitement! although my profile image and avatar would appear to communicate otherwise, i’m actually a BIG fan of color! :D
fabiofranca said: It is very interesting… maybe if I was famous… but I’m not….
what do you mean about being famous?
rohicks said: different than my normal style, but i’m attracted to it.
Print it!
unfortunately DBH doesnt have the capabilities to print it. if you know of anywhere that has the ability, let me know :)
very nice, and simple. +1
please check my quiksilver design out, vote and comment is appreciated
thx